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Wake up all of you talented graphic and web designers. And I do mean talented-(I've seen some of your stuff and it is absolutely great!) The practice of vendors asking for FREE mock-ups is unprofessional and unethical and needs to be stopped. IT IS LOWERING your standard of living by decreasing the hr/$ ratio. These "vendors" are playing into the rough economy and exploiting it to the extreme. "We'll pay you IF you submit a mock-up and we like it." What a slap in the face! Why should you work for FREE? Would you ask a dentist to fill a cavity for free? Don't undermine your talent! Do you realize that these vendors rely on YOUR IDEAS AND SKILLS TO SURVIVE. They are ONLY as successful as the work that is submitted by the creative talent they contract. YOU deserve more than $20-$100 for a logo or a web template (what a joke!). Ask them if they would take a cut on their profit and see what happens! What do you think portfolios are for? Anyone who has the nerve to ask for a free mockup is totally insensitive to you and should not be discounted for simply stealing your idea(s).It has happened to me earlier in my career. There is such a thing as a kill fee which protects both buyer and seller. THIS IS how transactions should be handled if either party defaults on their end. Vendors need to be educated on this subject. You may ask yourself "why is this my business". My answer to you is this- I've been is the graphic design industry for +25 years and I know demanding it is- especially to a freelancer (I've been on my own for 18 years). You've worked hard to get where you are. There is total lack of respect for the graphic designer- especially since the advent of the computer. Every "hack" thinks they can design or draw. When they realize they can't, they come to YOU to bail them out for $5 an hour, while they bill for their time @ $50 per hr. I am sure I am speaking for numerous self employed creatives who have witnessed this horrific practice. It is up to you to decide the road that is best taken. Enough said. To all my fellow graphic designers out there- I wish only the best for you in your career!
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So how to get a job without mockup? I have been trying here for 1-month without job. Elsewhere I already get 20 jobs by offering about 100 FREE mockups :( which proved my design is not that bad JUST cant survived without free mockup and low charges! Any help will be appreciated!
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Here-here! We all are in agreement on this one, the real kicker is-how do we solve this problem? Is it that freelance sites like this seem to be the exclusive haunt of only a handful of vendors and they feel they have us at their mercy? Would an influx of more vendors solve this problem or make it worse? I certainly hope that we can find a solution, because it is getting more and more difficult to make a living this way.
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95% True, but.... I've nothing against "free mock-ups". I can prepare one, but only for a SERIOUS client, paying SERIOUS money... and let's face it. noone can prepare 1000 mockups a month... and still make a living charging 50-100$ for website... can't those people see that all they get are the same templates over and over again? and one more thing: (I'm relatevly new here). Is it normal that 8/10 posted projects get "frozen" for ever?! How can I take someone as a serious contractor here?! And I won't just "spam-bid" not even reading prj. description hoping to be picked for the job... Ufff... And sorry for my english (at least I've read prj. desc ;)
$999,999 USD 在999天之内
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Well said Salgiosa! You're right! I respect my job. They don't.
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We are ready to take the challenging job. Kindly open PMB so we can have detail dialogue and forming a line of action for your project.
$4,000 USD 在45天之内
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Salgiosa1: The problem is not entirely the vendors fault. Some the blame lies with contractors based in South Asia and Eastern Europe who knowingly undercut your prices just to steal your work. They appeal to the greed factor in vendors who are located in the US and Europe. A very good service to creative people is Guru.com. A vendor can specify where the work will be done. I'm not against offshore contractors, but they only have their interest in mind. Flipper42 (Aka John F. Moore)
$100,000 USD 在365天之内
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AMIT IS THIS YOU!!!! i'AM SURE, Only you can write such a message!! :) Meghana.
$2,500 USD 在1天之内
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Absolutely correct on all counts. I am a creative director with 20+ years experience, and it drives me crazy when I see posters who want "freebies." We all should ban together and say "NO MORE FREEBIES!!" Unfortunately, there are WAY TOO MANY overseas "artists" on this forum who are not only willing to give it away for free, but also work for $5 an hour or less. I have a very good friend who just got back from India and she said if you make $200-$300 a MONTH over there you are doing very well. How can you compete with slave labor? I have been very discouraged by this forum after only getting 2 jobs in the 3 months or so I've been a member, and I have been very aggressive with my prices. There are "designers" who regularly win all the bidding (and you know who you are) who are posting under 2-3-4 assumed names and getting all the work. Well they can have it if they want to work for next to nothing! $5.00 and a bowl of rice curry is all they are worth!
$99,999 USD 在1天之内
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This is extremely important and I could not have said it better! I have been an Art Director, Graphic Designer and Illustrator for +25 years as well and I have seen what happens when young folks think they have to do work for free...don't do it. Respect yourself and your work. When you work for free you are killing everyone's chances of charging a decent wage and you are being ripped off. These prices are "starvation prices" Look at history. If you want more info PM me.
$2,500 USD 在5天之内
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$2,500 USD 在1天之内
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Yes, all you have said is correct. But at the end of the day, if clients want awful results, and aren't willing to pay the going rates, then they won't stay in business very long. And freelancers who are willing to work at a loss will go the same way. That's the bottom line. So let the amateurs employ the hacks, and we'll just carry on doing a what we've alays done.
$2,500 USD 在2天之内
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Ironic! I was just recently explaining this situation to friends. At the last company I was we would charge $100/hour for programming and/or design work. I think that's a competitive price. On here it would be ridiculous to try to charge that amount or anything comparable because I think we know who drives down the price; but I won't mention it. Ahem.
$999,999 USD 在999天之内
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I'll admit I'm not the most experienced freelancer here... but I've been appalled, not only by the people who post projects and only want to pay nothing to peanuts for quality work and they want it done yesterday, but also the freelancers who devalue the entire industry by bidding ridiculously low. I've not bid on a single project here yet, and one of the reasons is that so many are asking for something for almost nothing. Thanks for speaking up for all of us.
$8,000 USD 在100天之内
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I AGREE 100% Many of us are professional designers and make our living fighting competition especially on pricing. Getting clients in forums such as this has both good and bad qualities, but $100 websites and FREE Mockups are crazy requests. It takes a few hours to come up with a design, lay it out, upload it and then the requestor disappears without a word. He/she basically took the idea and ran with it without obligation! Never give it away - I've learned my lesson - got burned here once - only once! Good designers value your skills and learn to negotiate for what you need AND providing good service to your clients. Repeat clients and word of mouth are sometimes better than many $5 clients.
$500,000 USD 在1天之内
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We want to get more what we are doing. We designed and upload, they never come back to say anything just vanish. We do the whole website and php code for 100 bucks. Just because we want to independent and passion to design. Our website www.vinetcom.com. thanks.
$2,500 USD 在30天之内
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i dont kn what to say to this, but there is one another problem here for new comers, actually who have been bidding since a long time now with serving free mockups and samples but getting no attention and instead getting insulted in return. many talented graphic designers who even ready to work for a minimum budget and still are being ignored being creative. as only review earners get a chance, plz somebody do talk about this issue also so the we guys get a chance too.
$2,500 USD 在9天之内
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I hear ya and I'm with ya!
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Free mockups? I'm not playing that game. And whoever wants "real" design knows it. But "lanns1980", if you are in a country where the living costs are just a quarter of yours, isn't it different??. I'm sorry, it's not a matter of ethics. A designer is less designer because he charges less for his work or because the country where he lives is "under development"?? You design better than a designer from Argentina or Russia? It's just competition and this is the place for that. This site is not even from the US, and you play with their rules here. I think there's room for everybody in this BIG market, and if you want to charge $45/hour or 75/hour, this is not the place for that. regards, Laura, an argentinian living in Montréal.
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Well Said!
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Hi. I am professional designer, work more than three years in the large publishing house. I shall not speak that I am able to do, I am able to do everything to be the good designer.
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